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Massapequa Reacts to NRA Statement

Local officials weigh in on call to station armed guards in schools.

Reaction by Massapequa and Long Island officials ranged from anger to taking a wait and see response as the National Rifle Association gave its first extended response to the tragedy in Newtown, Conn. on Friday.

At a news conference in Washington, NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre suggested that the answer to preventing school tragedies may lie in armed protection at educational institutions.

"I call on Congress today to act immediately," he said. "To appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every school — and to do it now, to make sure that blanket of safety is in place when our children return to school in January."

LaPierre also criticized video games and movies for exposing young people to violent culture and announced that former Rep. Asa Hutchison, R-Arkansas, will lead an NRA program that will develop a model security plan for schools, that will emphasize armed volunteers.

Rep. Peter King, R-Seaford, indicated that with some exceptions, he doesn't think arming school guards will solve the problem.

“Except in extremely rare cases, armed police are not the answer to school violence," he said. "What we must have are common sense guns laws such as banning assault weapons and ending the gun show loophole.”

Assemb. Joe Saladino, R-Massapequa, offered condolences to those affected by the Newtown tragedy, but sidestepped the question of having armed guards at schools, but indicated he wants to engage in a dialogue on the issue during the next legislative session.

"We will be exploring balanced and meaningful answers to help bring about a better level of safety for our children, families, and for all New Yorkers," he said. "I look forward to working with everyone to develop new ideas and approaches to obtaining the level of safety our communities deserve.”

State Sen. Charles Fuschillo, R-Merrick, and Massapequa School Superintendent Charles Sulc, did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

One official who had harsh words for LaPierre's stance was Nassau PBA president James Carver.

"It is ludicrous. Kids -- especially grammar school kids -- shouldn't have to walk into a school with police set up there [with] the fear that there's something bound to happen," he said. " The bottom line here is that the guns are getting into the hands of the people that they shouldn't be getting into."

LaPierre did not take questions at the news conference, which was interupted twice by protestors, however he and other NRA officials are scheduled to appear on Sunday news talk shows. 

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Michael Taustine December 22, 2012 at 02:51 am
Errata---NRA defense of Second Amendment.
Concerned Long Islander December 22, 2012 at 03:22 am
I'm sure you meant the "Second" Amendment. This is exactly the kind of sane, common sense dialogue we need. Unfortunately, the NRA has used scare tactics to get its way for decades & decades. That kind of fear has turned otherwise sane people into neurotic paranoids. Thank you for your thought-provoking, common sense viewpoint. We have so much to learn as a society.
diane cascini December 22, 2012 at 03:26 am
Concerned Long Islander
I think you should leave your house once in a while. You have never seen any guards, or some type of security in any long island facilities, Have you ever been to the Nassau Coliseum.. How about the Nassau County Medical Center. How about Macarthur Airport. You have never seen Security at Nassau Community College? Try walking into the Mineola Court Houses, your choice, Federal or State Court? How about upscale Jewelry Store, tell me that you have not seen some form of security at their doors..... TD Bank, they use Nassau County Police and pay them their overtime rate to guard their doors, I cant say that about all branches, but the ones that I have visited, I have seen them..... TD Bank in the city of NY does the same using City Police... Take a walk through the Dept of Motor Vehicles in Massapequa, Carmen Plaza. Anytime I have been there, there was some form of security at the door... I do agree with you when you talk about these high powered automatic weapons, some weapons should not be sold to the general public. You say that I'm scared? I'm really not, I am being realistic.. This world and country is not what it was 40 years ago... I still don't understand why you fear putting trained armed security in our schools to PROTECT OUR CHILDREN ..............
mel December 22, 2012 at 05:07 am
all well and good, until one of the "armed guards" gets in a scuffle with one of the students and shoots him accedentally or snaps and shoots up the place. You can't solve the gun problem by throwing more guns at it!
ed December 22, 2012 at 02:00 pm
Cars kill more people...ban them
Concerned Long Islander December 22, 2012 at 03:07 pm
Can we reason this? Believe me, I leave my house every day of my life. I've worked at NCC; I've worked for County offices in both counties; I've worked in law & entered all courts.The problem with your argument is that our children are not exposed to those guards daily. I doubt many Massapequa children have ever witnessed an armed guard at any of bank, DMV, college, court house. And, if they do, that opportunity should be used as a strong learning tool. My elementary grandchildren enter many sporting. They understand the need to have bags checked at the door. However, they do not live under that security scrutiny daily. I fear creating a new generation of paranoid neurotics that our society couldn't cure. We don't understand and aren't able to address the problem of mental illness now..why foster a new generation with more reasons to go off the edge? I really don't want this to become a slug-fest of "I'm right; no, I'm right." This issue is highly complicated; what is really needed is a common sense approach, weighing the risk issues of safety and mental health. It is not only about the right to own a gun. It's not only about putting guards at the door -- which, by the way, will have to be paid for -- by taxpayers? NRA? Perhaps the NRA should fund these armed guards throughout the country with the dues collected from their members. Let's see how far that flies!
Those same guns that you say will be used to "PROTECT OUR CHILDREN" can ultimately be used to HARM OUR SOCIETY.
Pat Martin December 22, 2012 at 03:23 pm
. http://www.youtube.c...&v=j5nFFpBcruI#!, i dpont knopw if this link will work, if it doesnt go to youtube and search " this is what happens when guns are banned"
Michael Taustine December 22, 2012 at 04:34 pm
Ban guns? Who said that?
The free and easy availability of military grade weapons is what must be regulated. The NRA and its rabid and hysterical adherents continue to muddy the issue with wild and insane arguments. Military assault weapons have no place this country. Shrill accusations against "Banning Guns" is a rhetorical dead end.
tony December 22, 2012 at 06:00 pm
do you mean like Columbine? armed guard there and 13 died
tony December 22, 2012 at 06:05 pm
the rest of the world view violent movies, TV programs and games. Why isn't there any mass murders at the rate committed here. Our incidents of mass murders exceed the rest of the world combined by a vast margin
tony December 22, 2012 at 06:07 pm
it isn't the BAD guy who commits mass murder, It is the CRAZY guy who we allow to obtain assault rifles without background checks and waiting periods that commit mass murder
tony December 22, 2012 at 06:15 pm
Nazis had armed guards everywhere They were the supposed GOOD guys. and the those of the Jewish faith were the BAD guys it depends on your point of view, but sooner or later the good guy can become the bad guy.
John Rennhack December 22, 2012 at 08:02 pm
Don't trust Saladino to do the right thing. He voted against a bill that would prohibit domestic violence offenders from owning firearms. He also voted against renewal requirements for pistols.
Michael Taustine December 22, 2012 at 09:03 pm
Well worth listening to------
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/22/lawrence-odonnell-nra-lapierre_n_2349965.html
Steve December 22, 2012 at 09:38 pm
Couldn't agree more.
Massa December 23, 2012 at 06:53 am
School guards who are retired police officers make the most sense for anyone who would carry in a school, NOT teachers. They make about 25 dollars an hour armed. If the schools were to go to armed guards that would be the way to go, but the background check of the officers career would have to be looked at. No one would want some guard who sat behind a desk for20 years as a cop protecting their children.
Twin County Chorus Girl December 23, 2012 at 08:09 am
Repeal the laws that protect gun manufacturers from being sued if their guns hurt innocent people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_Lawful_Commerce_in_Arms_Act
Darryl Washington December 23, 2012 at 01:00 pm
I’m no fan of the NRA, but this postulate makes no sense. The onus lies at the feet of those who commit violent crimes in this country – no one else. Even if you banned guns completely, I can assure you that there would still be a measure of gun violence. There is a black market for everything for a reason. There would also be an upswing in the rate of non-firearm related deadly violence. Unfortunately, when horrific crimes like this are committed, the rhetoric is ratcheted up several notches by all sides. It’s easy to blame those who don’t share your views (or who hold opposing views) for any of society’s problems.
Human beings always find ways to kill. It’s who we are as a species. Can’t get an assault weapon? Want to kill lots of people? Mass murderers will ALWAYS find a way. Why? It is the ultimate manifestation of their sickness. And there lies the crux of the problem. The issue very rarely addressed in crimes like this, is the issue of mental illness. I expect people will continue to skirt the issue, or marginalize it. Mental illness is the “stepchild” of social ills in this society. Nobody wants to address it, because far too many are afraid of it. It hits too close to home for a significant number of people, I’m afraid. But, until this issue is addressed head on, in a very big way, mass murders will continue, no matter what else we do.
ed December 23, 2012 at 02:24 pm
Anyone who buys a semi auto has a background check. Guns are not to blame...its MEDICATIONS
ed December 23, 2012 at 02:28 pm
John I agree with you on many issues but you are wrong on this one. Government can't be depended on in an emergency. Can you explain why the Dept of Homeland Security (BIG GOVERNMENT) has purchased over 100 MILLION rounds of HOLLOW POINT ammo in the past year? What are they prepping for and why hollow point bullets?? Why should they be able to prep for collapse and not our citizens???
Concerned Long Islander December 23, 2012 at 02:31 pm
Massa.....who's going to fund these "armed guards" at our school doorways? Are you asking the already over-burdened taxpayer to dip even deeper simply because we fail to address the issue of mental illness and strict gun control? Are you suggesting the NRA will readily fund this through the dues paid by their members --- countrywide??? On both counts, I would say you'd have a tough time selling your viewpoint. It's time we get real and address the issues that plague our country in a common sense manner. We can't continue to put bandaids on seeping wounds and expect to heal ourselves.
tony December 23, 2012 at 06:02 pm
the other problem We and the NRA has seemed to forget is the "Stand Your Ground Laws" that many states have passed. So we have armed the guards and unfortunately, some become Judge, Jury and Executor. First and foremost anyone with a criminal record and/or mentally ill must never be allowed to legally purchase a gun. .Second, no clip of more then 10 bullets. Third, no weapons used in war should be legal to obtain. Lastly, bullets must be identified and purchase of clips should be limited and reported into a data base, therefore someone buying 3 or more clips would raise a red flag
John Rennhack December 23, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Ed, Snopes covered it well... http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/ssabullets.asp
ed December 24, 2012 at 02:31 pm
Following controversy over its purchase of around 1.2 billion bullets in the last six months alone, the Department of Homeland Security has put out a new solicitation for over 200 million more rounds of ammunition, some of which are designated to be used by snipers.
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-purchases-200-million-more-rounds-of-ammunition/
The Soup Nazi December 25, 2012 at 05:17 am
OK...heres the solution kid....stop the nonsense. I was a ranking supervisor in the NYPD and now I am a security supervisor at one of lour larger high schools..... First off... The City of Chicago where 50 children a year are shot and killed ( more wounded), now has a police officer at every high school ( more than one at some). In NYC, the mayor slammed the NRA, but seems to be unaware that at least one cop is assigned to every high school, and police in each precincts do truancy patrols. If the citizens of a school district want to have an armed guard , when that is thier right. The citizens own the school, and pay the taxes. Each district can act as their citizens want. Do say that it would not have prevented this mass murder is absurd. I would have seen this kid the minute he got out of the car, and opened fire on him. That action alone would have saved lifes because it would ave given the people inside time to lock up and take safer positions. This kid also killed himself when the police arrived. He was a classic coward.....he shot his mom while she slept becasue he didnt have the balls to confront her. he then picked the the softest target available. I am not fan of the NRA, and feel thee is no need for these assault type weapon ( the killer did not have an assault weapon), large clips and military ammo. However I feel that law abiding citizens should have the right to own a gun. If a guard is stationed at a school, it is not an end all to the problem
The Soup Nazi December 25, 2012 at 05:18 am
' the only thing that stops a bad gun with a gun...is a good guy with a gun"
John Rennhack December 25, 2012 at 03:31 pm
Except in Columbine.
John Rennhack December 25, 2012 at 03:34 pm
Ed, the FBI orders millions of rounds too? Why? Because besides armed agents needing to have loaded weapons, they also use them in training and practice. DHS agents aren't shooting BB guns.
The Soup Nazi December 25, 2012 at 03:36 pm
John....the shooter in Columbine was eventually stopped by the arrival of cops...the shooter in Sandyhook killed himself when the cops arrived..... Are you suggesting that the presence of uniform cops does not prevent crime.
The Soup Nazi December 25, 2012 at 03:39 pm
Do we sue carmakers if a drunk driver kills someone with a car....Do we sue Bed Bath and Beyond if someone stabs someone with a kitchen knife....of course not... If a product is legal...then it up to people to use it properly. Im not for any assault weapons but you can sue a person making a legal product
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LT June 16, 2013 at 09:52 am
when you say elite do you mean the hard working people who have money? it's a matter of labels. youRead More call them elite..they call themselves hard workers. yes, some inherit money. but most of us work for it.
Michael Taustine June 16, 2013 at 09:01 pm
No, it has nothing to do with how hard you work. It's just that the elite one percenters are treatedRead More differently when they run afoul of the laws in this country. No one has been jailed for the corporate malfeasance that resulted in the financial crash of '08, in spite of the rules that were ignored or broken. Too big to fail is the order of the day. Meanwhile, petty frauds committed by poor and middle class are prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Two Americas. The rule of law, unevenly applied, whether by race, or class, or economic station will result in the unraveling of society. We may well be seeing the beginnings of that now, as we've entered a new gilded age, where new robber barons are allowed to run roughshod over the lower classes. The very ideals of America are at stake, and we are letting them slide away.
Jack coyote June 12, 2013 at 03:24 pm
Will the new Massapequa station platform be covered end-to-end as it is now? If it will only beRead More partially covered, like Seaford station, there are going to be a lot of cold, wet, unhappy commuters.
Patrick O'Hara June 12, 2013 at 04:14 pm
Mr. Coyote, The design plans only call for a canopy over certain parts of the station platform, likeRead More almost all of the other stations along the branch. The canopies will be primarily over the staircases, elevator, waiting room, and one other small section on the middle section of the platform between the elevator and east escalator.
mj June 12, 2013 at 01:43 pm
Also blocks along Alhambra Road including Granada and Sutton. It rained the other day and was up toRead More the front lawn on one house that is still being renovated from Sandy!!!! Horrible if those owners saw this.